Runewords on Magic Items.

[Epiphron]

I've managed to do all the modding I want so far, in many cases thanks to resources on this site. Though I can't seem to find where I can set it so Runewords can be applied to Magic (blue) items (and perhaps rare/unique just as a matter of interest).

I've tried editing a number of things without success, so would appreciate any help.




On a side note, partially related, if I were to increase the number of sockets on an item (such as changing armor.txt>gemsockets 4 to 6 for Gothic Plate in armor.txt) would the new/extra sockets appear appropriately placed automatically? Also would that apply for items which originally have no sockets, such as gloves.

Thanks.

[devurandom]

RuneWords on magic items requires Code Editing.
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Also, the limit of 2 sockets on most magic items dropped is hard coded in a few places in the game.

[Epiphron]

Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. No wonder I couldn't get it working through the txt editing, though I'm not sure I'm about to dive into assembly as I barely scratched that a, very, long, time, ago.

Cheers.


ed, Thought I'd have a look anyway and got it working. Thanks again.

[devurandom]

Glad you got it working

Cheers.

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[Epiphron]

Since you're so eager and knowledgeable, I was wondering if you happen to know about any of the potential problems that might arise by using Runewords on Magic or greater items, rather than necroing an ancient threat.

It sounds like enabling them on Set items is clearly a bad idea, but I'm also reading things like..

...runewords store their runewords.txt index in the first affix slot, so making runewords in qualities that make use of affixes is a bad idea (not that it'll impart much).

...uniques can get away with it so long as you don't break the stat limit, the affix part only really matters when it needs to be read-back (like in the case of 1 cube recipe IIRC), seeing as the stats are set once for those items and the runeword name overwrites the affix names for magic items, you'd never notice it

Some of it sounds superficial/harmless. Though what about things like "stat limit", is "stat limit" referring to the number of affix/suffix on an item, or to a single stat (such as attack rating or a skill, etc) being increased too much. Any idea what this limit might be and the consequences of exceeding it?

If there's the possibility of save game corruption due to enabling any of this, it becomes an unacceptable risk, even before the thought of sharing a mod with others and spreading such a risk.

Thanks for any clarification with this.


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[devurandom]

I have seen a few posts that discuss some those issues, but I don't have the player save file function rewritten, so it would be better to let someone else answer that.

[Necrolis]

Since you're so eager and knowledgeable, I was wondering if you happen to know about any of the potential problems that might arise by using Runewords on Magic or greater items, rather than necroing an ancient threat.

It sounds like enabling them on Set items is clearly a bad idea, but I'm also reading things like..

...runewords store their runewords.txt index in the first affix slot, so making runewords in qualities that make use of affixes is a bad idea (not that it'll impart much).

...uniques can get away with it so long as you don't break the stat limit, the affix part only really matters when it needs to be read-back (like in the case of 1 cube recipe IIRC), seeing as the stats are set once for those items and the runeword name overwrites the affix names for magic items, you'd never notice it

Some of it sounds superficial/harmless. Though what about things like "stat limit", is "stat limit" referring to the number of affix/suffix on an item, or to a single stat (such as attack rating or a skill, etc) being increased too much. Any idea what this limit might be and the consequences of exceeding it?

If there's the possibility of save game corruption due to enabling any of this, it becomes an unacceptable risk, even before the thought of sharing a mod with others and spreading such a risk.

Thanks for any clarification with this.

There are 3 main issues to consider here:
1) It may be possible to create broken items but putting runewords into magic or rare items and then using a cube recipe that alters a/the affix slot used by the runeword, I have never bothered to look deeply into this so its a 50/50 of: it may be harmless or it may corrupt save files.
2) You can easily overflow the item display and cause crashes if the item gets too much text from the runeword and the base item combined
3) The shear number of stats on items increases greatly when you enable runewords in magic/rare items, making it much easier to hit the 8KB savefile size limit.