PlugY Questions

[Al-T]

Hi M and GAQ,

I've been playing a lot of TFW recently and noticed some PlugY related things:

1. The "LimitValueToShiftClick" assigns all remaining stat points when used. I did this on one of my characters with 128 saved stat points thinking it would only allocate 5 at a time like ZyEl .

2. The "NbPagesPerIndex" is set to 5.

3. The "NbPagesPerIndex2" is set to 25.

My personal preference for 2 & 3 are 10 and 100. Could you consider making these 3 adjustable via PlugY.ini rather than hardcoded or maybe change the hardcoding for just the first one as the other two aren't as important? Preventing "unallocation" of stats and skills should not be affected by these changes so there is still no chance to cheat. I bet I'm not the only one to make the mistake of stats allocation .

[Myhrginoc]

Item 1 is supposed to be completely disabled....

[Al-T]

Fair enough but I fail to see why this is imposed. I do agree that players should not be allowed to "unallocate" stats and skills but 128 stats allocated 1 at a time takes quite a bit of time which can be better used actually playing the Mod. Make a mistake and shift-click and you totally ruin your character which you may already have invested a lot of time in (a necro with 198 strength instead of 75 ). A 5 or 10 point shift-click allocation limit would be more reasonable. Make a mistake with this and you can sort the stats within a level or 2 in the bounds of the Mod legitimately without resorting to other more dubious methods.

[Myhrginoc]

That is my point. It is a bug that you can unallocate any stats or skill points at all. That you can unallocate all at once is as invalid as unallocating one point at a time. So I should fix a problem that should not even be available to players?

I will remove the lock on the other two items, btw...

[Al-T]

That is my point. It is a bug that you can unallocate any stats or skill points at all. That you can unallocate all at once is as invalid as unallocating one point at a time. So I should fix a problem that should not even be available to players?

I will remove the lock on the other two items, btw...

Ahh, you have misunderstood what I was trying to say....

It is only allocation I would like you to consider. I don't want to be able to unallocate anything. "LimitValueToShiftClick" only affects the number of stat points you can allocate using shift+left mouse button. At present you have it set to allocate all remaining stats. Changing this to say 5 or 10 in no way affects unallocation of stats or skills as they are controlled by another 2 keys in PlugY.ini. ZyEl has "LimitValueToShiftClick" hardcoded as 5 so you can still control whatever value you feel is correct for TFW. I hope this makes it clearer what I was originally trying to say.

For the other two, a massive thank you and sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Myhrginoc]

Yohann's notes say LimitValueToShiftClick works in both directions. Since I never thought unallocation would work, I didn't consider this parameter at all. I will make it have a narrow effect indeed!

[Al-T]

Yohann's notes say LimitValueToShiftClick works in both directions.

Only if you allow it by setting "ActiveStatsUnassignment" to 1 (which you won't be doing) in addition to "ActiveShiftClickLimit" and a value for "LimitValueToShiftClick".

Since I never thought unallocation would work, I didn't consider this parameter at all. I will make it have a narrow effect indeed!

Nice. It will mean we can still waste stats by allocating to say strength instead of mana but the results will be much less severe.