D2 re-programmed beyond any recognition ;)

Post by **Matt.J** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:11 am

Heh, I use 'sonny' sarcasticly, regardless of someone's age.

Alright, I'll call it my "Game Engine", which is a fair description since the (ugh) 'server' is afterall responsible for almost every aspect of the game except pretty graphical display

Post by **Nefarius** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:29 pm

Another small teaser

album_page.php?pic_id=2557

Every stat on that thing is either new or in some way changed (except for the summon resist thingy)

Post by **Frio** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:32 pm

You are gona tease us to death arent you? :p
Good stuff : )

Post by **DemonicAngel** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:15 am

You are gona tease us to death arent you? :p
Good stuff : )

No, he probably wants us to remain alive to play his mod.

Another small teaser
album_page.php?pic_id=2557

Every stat on that thing is either new or in some way changed (except for the summon resist thingy)

Wow! That's a normal ancient armor??!!?
I can't wait to see a unique one!

Post by **Myhrginoc** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:39 am

Nefarius knows about game balance...consider why those numbers might be there...

Post by **DemonicAngel** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:03 am

Well, the increased monster density (I'm assuming this means more monsters spawn?) works to balance it... but that doesn't seem to be enough. Especially not with "Invisible to enemies" and all the other sweet modifiers on that armor. Maybe I'm missing something... it seems way overpowered.

Post by **Malachai29** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:16 am

I would venture to say that the item in question is just a test piece...to make sure that everything is showing up as it should. I would also venture to say that an item of this magnitude, even something unique, would not actually appear in the mod....but, that is just my opinion...

Post by **DemonicAngel** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:12 am

[quote=Malachai29";p="354256"]I would venture to say that the item in question is just a test piece...to make sure that everything is showing up as it should. I would also venture to say that an item of this magnitude, even something unique, would not actually appear in the mod....but, that is just my opinion...

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That would make sense. Gracias.

Post by **kingpin** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:39 am

[quote=DemonicAngel";p="354254"]Well, the increased monster density (I'm assuming this means more monsters spawn?) works to balance it... but that doesn't seem to be enough. Especially not with "Invisible to enemies" and all the other sweet modifiers on that armor. Maybe I'm missing something... it seems way overpowered.

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The item is there just to show some of the new item abilites nef have added to his project. I'm sure, if this was an item you had to expect. He would say so

Post by **mirecek** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:59 am

[quote=DemonicAngel";p="354254"]Well, the increased monster density works to balance it... but that doesn't seem to be enough. Especially not with "Invisible to enemies" and all the other sweet modifiers on that armor. Maybe I'm missing something... it seems way overpowered.

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Why should must be everything so hard or extremely difficult? There are many players who always wanted to try something like this, and many of them should try it and say: "Yop, this is very powerful. I will deciede if use it and be cheater or be fair player and play without it!

Maybe it should help my merc to prevent dying every 3 minutes."

The mod is not "based" on players who will cheat anyways. If we will be afraid that players will abuse every stronger thing we give into mod, it will ends with ult4z0r 8k damage fallens (and another ugly ideas to challenge our stronger items) It all is matter of choice. I really wanted to try it but never should play whole game with invis.

Post by **kingpin** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:10 pm

The mod is not "based" on players who will cheat anyways. If we will be afraid that players will abuse every stronger thing we give into mod, it will ends with ult4z0r 8k damage fallens (and another ugly ideas to challenge our stronger items) It all is matter of choice. I really wanted to try it but never should play whole game with invis.

Invis can be made in different ways:

Monster's have chance "detect" you.
Some monsters like bosses. Always see you even if you are invis.
If you hit the mob. Your invis is gone.

There is several ways to balance up invis. To, work without make it broken.

If there is no restrictions to invis. There is risk, people will use invis items. to reach the bosses and farm them. That's a way, people easy could break out the fun.

Post by **Nefarius** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:47 pm

Oh my, what a debate that screenshot has kicked loose

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You are gona tease us to death arent you? :p

No, just very close to it

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Wow! That's a normal ancient armor??!!?
I can't wait to see a unique one!

It's a normal ancient armor, but one I tossed into the cube adding batch after batch of modifiers to make a screenshot with more then just 3

--- as for the unique items, I won't say much about those, you'll have to wait and see

[and there is a quality beyond unique anyway

]

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Nefarius knows about game balance...consider why those numbers might be there...

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Well, the increased monster density (I'm assuming this means more monsters spawn?) works to balance it... but that doesn't seem to be enough. Especially not with "Invisible to enemies" and all the other sweet modifiers on that armor. Maybe I'm missing something... it seems way overpowered.

See section 2

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I would venture to say that the item in question is just a test piece...to make sure that everything is showing up as it should. I would also venture to say that an item of this magnitude, even something unique, would not actually appear in the mod....but, that is just my opinion...

yep, albeit there will be stuff of this and greater magnitude in the end-game, but it won't be easy to come by as you'd actually have to work for it (it won't require grinding to find either, I'm not blizzard

), side quests that span over multiple acts and difficulties is the magic word here.

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The item is there just to show some of the new item abilites nef have added to his project. I'm sure, if this was an item you had to expect. He would say so

Yep, don't expect a normal item to look like that, but as with my past time projects, expect the unexpected.

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Why should must be everything so hard or extremely difficult? There are many players who always wanted to try something like this, and many of them should try it and say: "Yop, this is very powerful. I will deciede if use it and be cheater or be fair player and play without it! icon_wink.gif Maybe it should help my merc to prevent dying every 3 minutes."

The way it is planned stuff will be difficult as in complex, with riddles and other RPG elements that frankly completely lack from D2. But ofc, I won't disappoint the people looking for a brutal slaughterfest were you need to fight till death, thats all there, and plenty of it too

--- there will be more then one path to get to where you need in most cases [but I won't reveal too much, because A.) I don't want to spoil it long time before getting close to anything releaseable and B.) things may change]

The mod is not "based" on players who will cheat anyways. If we will be afraid that players will abuse every stronger thing we give into mod, it will ends with ult4z0r 8k damage fallens (and another ugly ideas to challenge our stronger items) It all is matter of choice. I really wanted to try it but never should play whole game with invis.

Yes, I don't base things around people who abuse end-game equipment and move it to new characters. In fact making the mod challenging to that audience encourages them to do even more cookiecuttering and twinking. Again to let the cheaters hit the brick wall, I won't say what it does --- but it does do something (many things) to foil stuff like this. At least this I can say here, rushing is not gonna be that easy, the game difficulty resolves around whoever is in the game and isn't really linked to the difficulty level (there are some diff-level related thresholds ofc).

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As for the invis thing

[spoiler]As for the thing with Invis, you aren't gonna be invisible to Psychic creatures, doing anything but walking / standing will allow them to hear you, and other aspects, and ofc this is on a item for testing purposes, this is more a thing for skills and low duration potions, on items expect to find something such as 'invisible to lower undead' (this was actually a removed property from a set item during alpha D2)[/spoiler]

Post by **DemonicAngel** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:28 am

won't say much about those, you'll have to wait and see [and there is a quality beyond unique anyway ]
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yep, albeit there will be stuff of this and greater magnitude in the end-game,
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The way it is planned stuff will be difficult as in complex, with riddles and other RPG elements that frankly completely lack from D2.
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But ofc, I won't disappoint the people looking for a brutal slaughterfest were you need to fight till death, thats all there, and plenty of it too --- there will be more then one path to get to where you need in most cases [but I won't reveal too much, because A.) I don't want to spoil it long time before getting close to anything releaseable and B.) things may change]
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spoiler:

Wow.

You are gona tease us to death arent you? :p
No, just very close to it

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Obviously.

See section 2

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What's section 2?

Post by **Nefarius** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:41 am

What's section 2?

The one between section 1 and section 3 of the reply

It's a normal ancient armor, but one I tossed into the cube adding batch after batch of modifiers to make a screenshot with more then just 3 icon_razz.gif --- as for the unique items, I won't say much about those, you'll have to wait and see icon_wink.gif [and there is a quality beyond unique anyway icon_razz.gif]

Post by **DemonicAngel** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:18 am

Sorry I'd never heard of anyone referring to parts of there reply like that...

I get it now.

Post by **GuyAskingQuestion** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:40 pm

Very nice work here Nefarius! You're taking D2 modding to the next level with this.

Is all this running through NefEx then?

Post by **Nefarius** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:33 pm

It is running on a special internal build of NefEx (Codename: MetalStorm) - it isn't the only large mod currently in development using this internal build

--- newest progress, another 15 or so previously unknown vanilla bugs squashed

Post by **DemonicAngel** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:13 pm

*drools*

Looks AMAZING so far. Keep up the good work.

Post by **TestSubject** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:01 am

This does look amazing! I looked at the linked pics and your whole album. Not sure which ones are in this mod. But it looks awesome.

Post by **sPoT** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:33 pm

Just because your achievements look quite surprising and you seem to be above maaany limits you should consider allowing people to give you some feedback. It is now like you can implement many of their ideas and surely make a good use of them.

The thing I don't know about your project is whether it is another mod concept or some plugin/system.

Anyway give people chance to show their ideas which sound more real now!

Greets

Post by **Nefarius** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:44 am

Newest bug fixes: The long running 'attack bug' which led to ghost missiles and blank swipes (with Zeal etc) has been fixed, I don't have to cap the # of attacks to 5 to fix this mess unlike Blizzard*cough*

)

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Just because your achievements look quite surprising and you seem to be above maaany limits you should consider allowing people to give you some feedback. It is now like you can implement many of their ideas and surely make a good use of them.

Well lets hear what ideas peoples have, they are all welcome to post them here, I won't say whenever I will use something or not however, only whenever I can implement it or not. (And, this isn't an exaggeration, the majority of things that will turn up I probably already have implemented anyway

)

The thing I don't know about your project is whether it is another mod concept or some plugin/system.

This is neither a plugin system or a mod concept, this is an actual mod. It is to some extent related to plugins because certain chosen things will be released as plugins.

... Some more eye candy stuff ...

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/4879 ... terze1.jpg
^ just random playing around with more new stats, and getting this scepter to 1-fps speed (and it works, aka trigger frame is not skipped, the anim isn't played at all

)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3681/lebnewaw6.jpg
^ new effect for lightning enchanted bosses (the boss event bug is ofc fixed)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/843/ ... derny2.jpg
^ colorization filters, independant of whenever someone uses DD/D3D

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2315/genericev9.jpg
^ just some balrogs with new palettes

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9537/shrinzerut3.jpg
^ another new shrine formerly only leaked once in IRC

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7779/darknessvn3.jpg
^ Hows that for darkness >D

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2644/rapidvh3.gif
^ scintillating item color on armor

Post by **mirecek** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:49 am

very nice work.. maybe the last armor will be disco_dance_suit?

Post by **Myhrginoc** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:02 am

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7779/darknessvn3.jpg
^ Hows that for darkness >D

Wicked! Now if a level setting could trigger that effect no matter how much + Light you have equipped, that would be quite [strike]annoying[/strike]...useful!

Post by **Nefarius** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:05 am

Myhrginoc";p="357552" wrote:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7779/darknessvn3.jpg
^ Hows that for darkness &D
Wicked! Now if a level setting could trigger that effect no matter how much + Light you have equipped, that would be quite [strike]annoying[/strike]...useful!

Thats actually the next thing I intend to work on

--- I already got callback for levels running server side, not clientside (speaking of which, I also have to fix the retarded exception when you forget to add a entry image).

Post by **allas** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:25 am

ur my idol nef! i like these cool modifier, i jsut saw a new game its so cool

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