making TRAN ATHULUA easier please

[Zome]

i want TRAN ATHULUA easier couse i really cant do it and its too hard

for all builds its like hard for me i dont know if any other have comments

[HaveASmile]

It's not too hard. Get a better char. Also, it will be made easier in 1.57 due to some tweaks to Guided Chain. for now, the damage is broken (Too high) and it has no NHD wich will be added. So I'd say try it again in 1.57.

Oh, I just read he didn't say he would lower the damage. But maybe...

[Zome]

hm, but can u do it?

[oneillz808]

you know what could make it easier... get high lvl friend and make him clear the area and tank for you

[Skivverus]

Or you could skip the level challenge and get on with the rest of the game.

It's not supposed to be easy - upgrading the Sunstone of Thunder gets you a better charm than what you get out of the Cathedral of Vanity, so it had better be hard to get.

[enkephalin07]

In that case, keep LC1 as is and make Cathedral of Vanity easier

[grimjerk]

Or you could skip the level challenge and get on with the rest of the game.

It's not supposed to be easy - upgrading the Sunstone of Thunder gets you a better charm than what you get out of the Cathedral of Vanity, so it had better be hard to get.

Exactly. The charm, once upgraded, is ridiculous. So it is only logical that the level be equally ridiculous. If Brother Laz makes the challenge easier, then there should be an appropriate nerfing of the charm. Which everyone who complained about the level being too hard will b**** and moan about.

-grimjerk

[HaveASmile]

hm, but can u do it?

Yes, I did the level challenge with a specialised Druid build. And my Paladin can beat it on Destruction, too.

[enkephalin07]

hm, but can u do it?

Yes, I did the level challenge with a specialised Druid build. And my Paladin can beat it on Destruction, too.

I saw that video, you were rocking them pretty hard.

I think every build has a skill that'll get them through with time and effort, and some builds have skillsets that will get them through easier, but still not easy. I found it rough as hell on Hatred, manageable on Terror, and on Destruction now, still struggling w/1k challenge, even more difficult than in Hatred. The reward is supposed to be worth the effort, and the manual clearly advises it's only for advanced players. Determined and/or clever players can also do it, but not necessarily players who whine that it's too hard to do.

[medianman]

i personally think the greatest charm should be changed to a level 121 area that means you dont have to rush through the game to get an uber charm (i mean its not just the fact its incredibly hard to do the thing but rushign through Act 1 and beginning of Act 2 is a little nasty as well, and doesnt let you relax) wheras if a good charm (maybe even better than this current one) was put in an 121 uber level with one major boss, maybe Belial or someone from Books players could relate too.

i think that would be a nicer idea

[Skivverus]

Well, that's what the Cathedral of Vanity used to be. And then Laz added Rathma Square, and people complained that it was impossible for a while... and then they figured it out and complained that it was too easy, and then Laz added the Kingdom of Shadow, and people complained that that was impossible for a while (personally, I just skip it because I have too much fun with low-vitality builds), and so on.

And again, it's not like you have to go for the upgraded Sunstone of Thunder. I certainly don't with most of my characters, and they're happy with the results.

[enkephalin07]

rushign through Act 1 and beginning of Act 2 is a little nasty as well, and doesnt let you relax

Yeah, I kind of felt I out missed by rushing through. But I admit I'm relatively newbie to Median and enough years gone by since I've played LoD regularly, and I think the challenge assumes that the player undertaking it has gone through Hatred too many times to really miss it. You do get to take your time through Terror afterward, even if you're doing LC2.

To the OP; it's not fun for everyone, but isn't easy for anyone.

[PopizzdioJazz]

didn't laz say he'll raise the lvl cap for LC1 and that he figured that guided chain does 5x more dmg than intended? this will make LC1 MUCH easier, just wait for 1.57.

[DemonicAngel]

Oh, I just read he didn't say he would lower the damage. But maybe...

He said he'd fix it:

Also I'm fixing the GC bug that makes it do x5 damage.

You're right; that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll lower the damage. But most likely it does.

didn't laz say he'll raise the lvl cap for LC1 and that he figured that guided chain does 5x more dmg than intended? this will make LC1 MUCH easier, just wait for 1.57.

The first two parts of the Black Road challenge will be done by 60, and then the LC1 level requirements will be 60/70/80. So characters in 1.57 will probably be doing both level challenges around the same time, at level ~55-59.

Part of waiting for 1.57 will most likely be that the charms will not be as beneficial, however.

[Logger_120]

didn't laz say he'll raise the lvl cap for LC1 and that he figured that guided chain does 5x more dmg than intended? this will make LC1 MUCH easier, just wait for 1.57.

He also said he's raising the area lvl to 80. Granted it will be easier (anything will make it easier than it is now, since its damn near impossible) but I doubt it will be easy. Right now the monster in Tran have nerfed stats in Hatred b/c of the LC. I'm sure that even with the changes it will still be incredibly difficult.

[DemonicAngel]

The amazons in Tran Athulua will probably get buffed, because people will be fighting them at level 55 instead of 15, so they'll be tougher. But so will you, because you'll be higher level, have better items, and have access to all of your regular skills. Plus, at level 55-80 you might even have access to some of the ubercharms, if you twink them on to the character.

All in all, it'll probably even out and end up just as hard or a little less hard than it is now.

(Which is all basically what Logger_120 said, sorry. Lol.)

[PopizzdioJazz]

i don't know if you ppl read 'noob' comic online? (i haven't read it in a long time, but...)
there is a couple o episodes covering one guy who managed to say out loud this thought:
- FINALLY!!! i have the Sword of Ultimate Imbalance!!! i have left my school and my job, my girlfriend left me, my life has become a total mess, but IT WAS WORTH IT!! now, after 3 months of acquiring requirements, i have finally got the sword!!!

and then one of game masters (i think GM Death) came and sad:
- you sir are banned for obviously being a BOT! nobody can spend 3 months only farming stuff! you obviously are not human! - andthen they banned him

and then in an episode a couple of weeks after that that guy is unbanned:
GM Death - sorry sir, it seems we made a mistake and we apologize humbly. we will restore all your previous belongings and will grant you full access to your character. furthermore! we learned from your hard experience that nobody should ever go through ordeal of hard work to get and in-game item. this is only a game, right?
THUS, we will make Sword of Ultimate Imbalance accessible to ALL players IN A WEEK worth of trouble.

and then the guy hangs himself on a tree.

i think there is a moral in here somewhere.

[DemonicAngel]

Yeah, kill GM Death before he can make any life-ruining decisions.